Science VS God

[justme]

Hey guys welcome to the Science VS God thread feel free to argue or to disagree and respond wether ur a Christian or not.

Alright I;m gonna spew a whole heap of quotes out to get this discussion goin....

"Science and religon are... are friends, not, foes, in the common quest for knowledge. Some people may find this surprising, for there’s a feeling throughout our society that religious belief is outmoded, or downright impossible, in a scientific age. I don’t agree. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that if people in this so called “scientific age” knew a bit more about science than most of them actually do, they’d find it easier to share my view.”
- Physicist and Theologian John Polkinghorne

“It was my science that drove me to the conclusion that the world is much more complicated than can be explained by science. It was only through the supernatural that I can understand the mystery of existence.”

Allan Rex Sandage

“The best data we have are exactly what I would have predicted had I nothing to go on but the first five books of Moses, the Psalms, and the Bible as a whole.”

Nobel Prize winner Arno Penzias

“It is hard to resist the impression that the present structure of the universe, apparently so sensitive to minor alterations in numbers, has been rather carefully thought out … The seemingly miraculous occurrence of these numerical values must remain the most compelling evidence for cosmic design.”
Physicist Paul Davies

It may seem bizarre, but in my opinion science offers a surer path to God than religion.”

Physicist Paul Davies


“Only a rookie who knows nothing about science would say science takes away from faith. If you really study science, it will bring you closer to God.”

Nonscientist James Tour of Rice University

“Nothing we learn from the universe threatens our faith. It only enriches it.”

Astrophysicist and priest George Coyne

Romans 1: 18 - 22 Since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse

[justme]

....hmmmm maybe my God poll was wrong....none seems intrested in this....

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its confuseing

[Shwoozar]

what is, like if evolution dissproves god, so on and so-forth

to the point, if evolution is true, were did eyes come from, and were did hair come from and wrere did ears come form, they are not eisily explained

evolution worksd, til byou get out a low-power magnifying glass

in the beggining god created the heavens and the earth, thats it.

[agent 99]

Yea if evolution were true, were did the first spec come from?

[Shwoozar]

it always was there silly - lol

therer is no fight between science and god, it isa a hopeless cause to try and fight them

[agent 99]

But if it was always there why weren't we able to be just always there lol?
Yes because God is the ruler of all.

[Frost]

I don't remember who or when, but somebody said that if Evolution is correct, and things evolve over time and we were originally little specs of bacteria, then where did that bacteria come from?

[agent 99]

exactly what I mean, thankyou.

[Shwoozar]

you are correct, evolution is were over time, for many reasons, radiation, injury, virus, a creature's dna code is damaged/changed, if the change is bad, the creature will die, if not, the change is passed on to its offspring, if the change gives it an advantage, it will have more offspring, leading to a higher percentage of the population with the same mutation, over time, there would be thousands of mutations, so that the creatures would be counted as diffferent spiecies

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do u belive in evolution shwoozer?

[Macca]

"If the so-called "Big-Bang" -the sudden eclapse of the universe as we know it- took place only 0.000000000000001 times (that was 15 zeros and a one) faster or slower, the universe would have collapsed on itself resulting in the complete destruction of the world we live in. This is irrifutable evidence. To what I'm not sure."

- Steven Hawking, Physicist

[agent 99]

I'm not saying I don't agree with that but wow how did they prove that?

[Shwoozar]

I do not have specifvic belifs towards the start, because you see, if you form a solid idea not based on the bible, you are gunna becomme a 'false prophet' so, i dont wanna spend the rest of eternety in pain, so, i pick option... wrong spelling

uh, i choose to go the see what happens waay, and try to take a few others with me

[justme]

well u maaaayyy be taking that false prophet thing a little far (as a side have a look at 2 Peter 2 it has a few things to say about false prophets- speculation is not always bad u can believe and try to convince but as soon as u start going down the path of preaching it as the word of God or as from God then ur well.....slipping down the slippery dip of false prophecy)

alright this whole evoloution thing .....hmm

now there is a little thing called quantum physics which some scientist believe could have started the big bang (the whole big bang thing gives me headaches i cant wrap my head around it) and a famous experiment by Stanely Miller which showed the possibility of the creation of life (ie bacterium) that may be something to think about

(not saying i believe it only suggeting the possibility)